- August 14, 2017 at 11:35 am #46576
I ordered myself a S&W model 69 44 mag with a 2.75″ barrel last week. I shot it for the first time yesterday evening. Lets just say full house 240 grain JHP 44 mag is painful. It actually tore some skin off of my thumb and I only shot five rounds. 44 spl was a dream and that is all this little girl will ever be feed most likely.
- August 14, 2017 at 11:42 am #46577GoodsteelKeymaster
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Well, you have to figure that the 240gr HP are meant to be bear stoppers (assuming you were shooting factory ammo). If you were to load some 240 grain SWC, you can tame that down quite a bit, but with reduced loads, you’ll probably always get best low speed precision with the 44spl brass.
- August 14, 2017 at 11:51 am #46579
Yes, factory American Eagle. I will be shooting reduced loads from here on out.
- August 14, 2017 at 12:25 pm #46581
240 gr SWC over 6 gr Red Dot. Pleasant, and makes that powder go a long ways.
- August 14, 2017 at 12:43 pm #46582
I don’t have Red Dot, but do have Unique and W231. Going to work with those and see what I come up with.
- August 14, 2017 at 9:41 pm #46584
With 231 it might be a 1:1 for Red Dot. Check the books. With Unique, you’re going to burn about 40% more. One of the nice things about Red Dot — and most shotgun powders in general — is that they never dried up in the great component crisis of recent. And, they remain reasonably priced. I believe that the pressure developed by light target loads in handguns is close to that of shotgun target loads. Hence, they tend to burn efficiently and cleanly in both applications. Another thing to consider is that many of our senior clay shooters are moving on. In some cases, their widows just want that stuff gone. The back bumper of my Nissan Frontier has drag marks on it. I always say a word of thanks for carrying it on to a useful future as I drive away. Somewhere, an old gent is laughing at lugging that stuff off. BTW, I am thinking of changing my measure of shotgun wads to cubic feet, maybe even bushels. I hope my children laugh when they pull away in that BIG U-haul, and hope they don’t have to pass over any scales.
- August 15, 2017 at 8:04 am #46585
I just checked Hodgdon’s online reloading data. Surprisingly, they do not have any for a 240 gr bullet with WW 231 in .44 Special.
.44 mag data – Much more 231 powder than I expected.
8.0 1,021 23,800 CUP
11.0 1,272 37,800 CUP
From Alliant’s website
.44 mag w/ 240 gr LSWC
Bullseye 6 894
Red Dot 6.5 905
Green Dot 7 901
Unique 7 899
- August 15, 2017 at 2:01 pm #46590
Thanks for the data. I have a butte load of 700x from a clay shooter that moved out of state.
- August 15, 2017 at 2:30 pm #46593
I would be surprised if the Lyman Cast Bullet Manual did not have a load with 700x. It will go a long ways too.
- August 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm #46595
I have that manual I just haven’t checked it yet.
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