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    • #24810
      Harter
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      This forum is indicative of how a once-rational human-being is propelled on a self-destructive road to oblivion, assisted by so-called “fellow shooters” who are nothing but enablers. Typically, it starts with what seems a few innocuous answers on a firearm- or cartridge-related forum. Next, the prospective addict is lured into his friend’s basement or shed and allowed to load a supposedly mild-dose of 9mm, .357, .223, etc. With the excuse of “saving money,” the enablers coax the novice into attending gun-shows, crawling on his hands and knees to collecting brass, scouring drawers for pennies for even more reloading equipment, browsing the Internet for “gun-porn,” and texting fellow addicts about powder sales and primer availability. Now hooked, the once-novice rapidly degenerates into a full-fledged “reloader,” as these addicts are known. Pitiful to observe, they are often seen perusing reloading guides about obsolete, new, or wildcat cartridges, communicating with fellow addicts using code-words like CTC, COAL, BC, ES, POI, MOA, etc., and even caught with zip-loc bags of spent brass in their pockets and automobiles. Although a visit to a gun-shop or shooting range may seem to pacify the “reloader,” they can quickly become irrational, e.g. sniffing Hoppe’s #9, hoarding primers, experimenting with various gun-powders.

      Know the 10 Signs of Mega-Reload-Mania
      1) Recurrent failure to resist impulses for ever smaller five-shot groups.
      2) Frequently engaging in longer periods of time than intended for reloading activities.
      3) Persistent desire to improve bullet velocity, decrease standard deviation or MOA, etc.
      4) Inordinate amount of time spent in obtaining powder, primers, or reloading equipment.
      5) Preoccupation with case prep or improving ballistic co-efficiency.
      6) Frequently engaging in reloading when expected to fulfill occupational, academic, domestic, or social obligations.
      7) Continuation of the behavior despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent problem that is caused or exacerbated by reloading.
      8) Need to increase the intensity, frequency, number or risk of reloading.
      9) Giving up or limiting social or occupational activities except with fellow reloaders.
      10) Resorting to distress, anxiety, restlessness or whining if unable to engage in reloading.

    • #24811
      DaveInGA
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      That’s not true! I haven’t reloaded a single cartridge all day long. I’ve only done a little research these past few days relating to potential solutions to real problems with rifles I’m going to use when hunting. Just because I passed on going to see the grumpy daughter in law with the wife today and chose instead to post questions and get answers related to this research doesn’t mean a thing….Besides, I already have cases and jacketed bullets for all three of the rifles I’m doing research on.:p

    • #24812
      Goodsteel
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      No no no. What you describe is only mid level hopelessness. Let me repond to your points from the perspective of someone who is “all in”:

      1. Absolute insistence on 10 shot groups or more (7 is the minimum required for statistical credibility FYI).
      2. At a certain point, you quit saying “I spend way too much time with this” and just admit it’s a lifestyle.
      3. Actually having fired good groups at 2700+ FPS in at least half a dozen rifles.
      4. Inordinate amount of time trying to obtain powder, primers and reloading equipment you already own duplicates of.
      5. You actually have five gallon buckets of brass that is prepped better than most match shooters know how to do.
      6. Succeeding in designating reloading and shooting as part of your occupational, academic, domestic, and social obligations.
      7. It’s not normal to have little burns on your hands, a wheezing cough and silver dots all over your cloths?
      8. 90% of people who blow up firearms or experience a Kaboom walk away with only minor injuries, and 100% believe it’s best to back off that charge just a tudge.
      9. Fellow reloaders is the only society I care to associate with. I do make a valiant effort to bring non reloaders into the fold in order to broaden my horizons though.
      10. Distress, anxiety, restlessness and whining are just a few natural symptoms of a perfectly normal person who hasn’t spent enough time reloading and shooting. There is a very simple and effective remedy.

    • #24814
      Bodean98
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      FINALLY!!!!!!!!
      Someone who understands me!:o

    • #24817
      Anonymous
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      I don’t understand the problem…………

    • #24823
      Larry Gibson
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      There is a problem. ………

      Larry Gibson

    • #24829
      MTtimberline
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      Is it also a symptom if you purchase brass, dies, moulds, sizes, etc. for cartridges and calibers which you do not currently own, but plan on or want to get “someday”?

    • #24832
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      I resemble that post. Well most days I don’t have a problem, well not a big problem. My ammo table is about to break its legs but that is minor.

      #1 is not me at all.
      #2 doesn’t bother me at all, being retired I have loads of time to kill.
      #3 well 2 out of 3 don’t apply, the MOA chase does to a point.
      #4 is totally not true.
      #5 no, I am not that OCD.

      #6 you guys are nutz I’m out of here.

    • #24836
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      After reading all of this, I suspect someone has been spying on me. But, I can quit anytime, I’m sure of it. The fact that I spent several hours tinkering with the crimp adjustment on a Mec Sizemaster was actually just physical therapy. No, really I’m not hooked on reloading.

    • #24868
      Doughty
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      I can quit any time I want to…..

    • #24869
      Harter
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      I’m good to know that we are all safe and sound here.

      I borrowed this elsewhere changed 1 word and it just rings so true.

      I only have 7 sets of dies to send to new homes,I had to buy lots to get dies I wanted…..er….needed for a rifle……Ummm barrel that is almost ready for the switch barrel. .Ummm never mind.

    • #24871
      Smoke4320
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      The cure is simple .. send all your guns and reloading supplies to me .. followed by changing your gender identity and voting for Hitlery

    • #24884
      Rossi.45
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      my name is Ross . . . . i am a load-aholic

      and proud

    • #24893
      Menner
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      Thy tell me there is no cure but the symptoms can be treated
      but is expensive so I figure that with all the money I am saving casting and reloading I may be able to afford the treatments
      Tony

    • #24896
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      One of my justifications to my wife is: “Honey, it keeps me out of the bar and not chasing wild women”. She suggested not long ago that maybe if I went to the bar we could save some money!?!?!:eek:

    • #24899
      bullet maker
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      I surrender.

    • #24901
      Anonymous
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      I spent all day yesterday sorting brass. Is that a bad thing?

      P.S.
      Are there any 9mm headstamps i should avoid?

    • #24905
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      A-meric ! !

    • #24927
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      I can quit any time I want. I’m not done using……

    • #24930
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      When you buy more presses so you don’t have to change dies……

      At one point I had 9 progressive machines because I didn’t like to change dies. Now I am just down to six….plus 2 turrets, 8 or 9 single stages, and 3 swage presses.

      I am sick, but getting better…

    • #24939
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      I don’t have a problem…I just do it to take the edge off a little, you know?

      But when the “normal” reloaders look at you like you’re kinda weird for the extremes to which you go, it kinda makes you wonder if you’re some kinda “special.”

    • #24940
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      I think Harter just wants to help. And seeing how there does seem to be a lot of people with this condition, I must also humbly offer my assistance. I have always heard the best way to break loose of something is to just give it away. I’ve always been told I have a strong will, so I think I can handle anything you all need to let go of, without it taking hold of me. Just here to help………

    • #24960
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      IllinoisCoyoteHunter;n3209 wrote: When you buy more presses so you don’t have to change dies……

      At one point I had 9 progressive machines because I didn’t like to change dies. Now I am just down to six….plus 2 turrets, 8 or 9 single stages, and 3 swage presses.

      I am sick, but getting better…

      And I thought I was bad because I got two Dillons so I didn’t have to change primer parts

    • #24969
      bear67
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      I don’t have any problem with this condition. I just don’t admit it anyway. I started to say that I don’t have any vices but I realized I probably have 15 scattered around in different shops, tool trailers and trucks. Heck I forgot plumbing vices.

    • #24978
      IllinoisCoyoteHunter
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      At this point in the game I am going to retire my 2 Star universals because they are just in great shape and I want to preserve them (call me weird). I now load most everything on my 2 Dillon 550s (pistol) and 2 Hornady LNL APs (rifle loads with casefeeders). I like the powder droppers for the hornadys as I feel they are a bit more accurate than the dillons.

    • #25003
      Doc44
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      I dont have a problem. I stop for an hour or two every few weeks so that I can prove I can quit any time I want. But why would I want to quit???

    • #25277
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      I should be a millionaire with all the money I have saved by reloading, right? I think the break even point should be somewhere when I am about 135 years old!!

    • #25280
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      Last week I spent my “free time” in the garage sorting 700+lbs of WW. “Free time” is time not at the range or casting/smelting or in my gun/reloading room or practicing at my indoor 10m air pistol range.

    • #25310
      doc1876
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      Balderdash! I have all of my loading, Reloading, labeling, gun records and other gun related topics, issues, and research on a flash drive in my pocket at all times, just in case of an emergency, only.

    • #25339
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      you know you have the bug when you jump out of the car at a stop light or stop sign because you saw a wheelweight on the road ha ha done it many times

    • #25342
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      I think the OP is exaggerates! By the way does anyone know where you can still buy the Hoppe’s No. 9 car and room fresheners?

    • #25352
      bullet maker
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      So you say. Time will tell. hahaha

    • #25353
      goody
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      what are the “real” symptom’s of lead poisoning?

    • #25364
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      Ms gets out for them …..we’re planning a day trip to walk the high traffic intsections between here an Tonopah ……

    • #25369
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      i had my blood tested for lead it is allowable to have 1-40 ppm to be healthy, i had only 2 …. this after 30 years of handling and casting lead … just cast where you get good fresh air circulation, and wash hands before eating……

    • #25983
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      I don’t want to hear it Dr. Phil.:mad:

    • #26072
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      goody;n3712 wrote: what are the “real” symptom’s of lead poisoning?

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    • #26120
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      badbob454;n3731 wrote: i had my blood tested for lead it is allowable to have 1-40 ppm to be healthy, i had only 2 …. this after 30 years of handling and casting lead … just cast where you get good fresh air circulation, and wash hands before eating……

      Lead poisoning most likely comes from the water you drink…

    • #26263
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      Bodean98;n3171 wrote: One of my justifications to my wife is: “Honey, it keeps me out of the bar and not chasing wild women”. She suggested not long ago that maybe if I went to the bar we could save some money!?!?!:eek:

      My wife has said the same thing a few times.

    • #26298
      Rattlesnake Charlie
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      My ex-wife said I spent too much time reloading. Maybe if I had spent even more time reloading she would have run off sooner. What a chance I missed. My new girlfriend is learning to load her own ammo. Good upgrade on my part.

    • #26312
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      Smoke4320;n4553 wrote:

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      dont forget the {][][&^ akla ht9 (–&+)

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