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    • #28945
      Goodsteel
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      I don’t have TV, so I missed the happenings at the RNC last night, but I catch the highlights on the radio.
      I am very very pleased with Trump’s choice for a running mate. In fact, I’m liking Trump more and more by the day, and I’m throwing in behind him.

      HOWEVER.
      Several months ago, I did see all those presidential hopefuls with their hands up swearing to back up whoever won the republican nomination. One of those who swore he would support the nominee was senator Cruz. He should have stuck his hands in his pockets back then, or he should have kept his word last night.
      As it is, he proved himself a liar on national television, and I’ve had about all of that I can stand. I voted for him in the general election, but that was the last vote he’ll ever get of mine. I can’t stand a liar. Show me a liar, and I’ll show you a thief. America has been robbed enough, and this is exactly why the American people want someone in the white house who is not a career politician.
      Cruz just lost any vote he could have gotten from me. Perhaps he should run as a democrat? Being a corrupt liar is a prerequisite for nomination in that party. Regardless, in my opinion, the liar can just “Cruz” right on down the road, and good luck winning the next local election buddy.

      Just my two cents.

    • #28946
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      Someone here at work called him a “traitor”.

      I like what Phil Robertson had to say about Cruz: “You lost, he won.” That’s clarity with brevity.

    • #28949
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      I always remember a quote once told in school that will stay with me forever when talking any politics. ” worst of two evils” doesn’t matter who is running, they all have there own personal agenda along with those many who are lining there pocket.

    • #28950
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      I use the phrase “lesser of two evils”.
      The only one I voted for that I actually liked was Reagan.

    • #28952
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      The thing about the lesser of two evils is that the greater of the two is often pure evil, and not choosing the lesser is, in effect, choosing the greater by default.

      I’ll never forget all the conservatives in this country who didn’t vote for Mit Romney because he was a Mormon, and in so doing gave Obama the green light. Look at all the terrible things that have happened here. Look at the way our country has been weakened! Think anybody sees ol Romney as all that bad now? Think we’d be anywhere near the spot we are in?
      God, it’s so disgusting I can barely stand to think about what it was like watching Obama’s acceptance speech.
      It actually turned out worse than I feared. Trillions of dollars in debt, a rainbow colored whitehouse, widespread discrimination and persecution of Christians the likes of which this country has never seen.

      I don’t like the term “lesser of two evils” when you are comparing pure unadulterated evil with “slightly unsavory”. I did not believe the country would be even close to as bad off under Mitt Romney as it has been under Obama, and I feel exactly the same way about Trump vs. Hillary.

      It’s time for all the petty conservatives to quit squabbling over inconsequential trivia and take a good look at what is at stake. If Hilary or Bernie is allowed to use Obama’s momentum to springboard toward their goals, America is going to be officially reestablished as a socialist nation.
      That is true evil.

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      The “petty conservatives” ain’t got no balls.

      Just as in the days of the American Revolution, people must step and express their views. Most people today would rather have the “government” take care of them.

      My brother summed it up rather succinctly: Who to vote for this year? It is as easy as ABC. Anybody But Clinton.

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      The NRA has endorsed Donald J. Trump.

      ’nuff said.

    • #28959
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      Rattlesnake Charlie;n8216 wrote:
      Most people today would rather have the “government” take care of them.

      I’ve heard that said so much, I’m starting to wonder if it’s “the lie repeated often enough.”

      I think the old fashioned Americans far outweigh the special interest groups and liberals. Their voice is the one heard the loudest, and since I’ve been voting, the sound of silence from the right is deafening.
      The liberals are taking over this country because they’re just loud enough to be equal in volume to the small fraction of conservatives who havnt given up on this country yet.

      This despicable, petty, selfish action by Cruz pretty much sums up the whole reason why the right wing is crippled.
      The right is filled with people just like him who “vote their conscience” and if they don’t get their way exactly as they wanted it, they throw a fit.
      Sad state of affairs.
      The truth is if the only way we can hold together as one is if we are in a domestic war zone, then that’s exactly what we will get.

      There are many reasons the left is evil, but I will give them this: they are unified. They are loyal to their leadership. They are willing to sacrifice to advance their cause. And like a cancer, they never sleep.

      Evil will triumph if righteousness doesn’t show up with equally impressive credentials.

    • #28962
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      I too voted for Cruz so don’t feel like the Lone Ranger !! Glad we found out the temper of his metal before it was too late.

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      Cruz and his other loosing primary candidates all were incensed when Trump initially refused to sight the “Pledge.” He eventually did sign on, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, not only Cruz, but Kasich and Jeb Bush all reneged on the “Oath.” I guess that they are taking a cue from HIllary and feel that lies don’t count when you’re a politician.

    • #28980
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      Scharfschuetze;n8241 wrote: Cruz and his other loosing primary candidates all were incensed when Trump initially refused to sight the “Pledge.” He eventually did sign on, but now that the shoe is on the other foot, not only Cruz, but Kasich and Jeb Bush all reneged on the “Oath.” I guess that they are taking a cue from HIllary and feel that lies don’t count when you’re a politician.

      Yeah, Cruz comes back with “But Trump insulted me, so it’s OK”.
      Seriously? Think that cuts any ice with real Americans?
      Heck, I build some of my finest rifles for free knowing the whole time the persons receiving them would end up throwing me under the bus. I did it because I gave my word I would and no other reason.
      The way I see it, the tougher it gets, the more it matters.
      Cruz probably just wanted to kick Trump in the teeth just once, but in so doing, he jeopardized the entire party. Our success in this election depends on unity and nothing else, and in that sense, Cruz is a traitor to his country.
      I tell you one thing, I’m glad that guy isn’t a nominee any longer. A man who’s morals are so weak that he would compromise himself on national television and probably ruin his future career over thin skin, is not the guy we want running the show. What a dipweed.

    • #28981
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      Hillary is already using Cruz’s “Vote your conscience” line to her advantage in her diatribes suggesting that he’s supporting her.

    • #28987
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      I’ve gotten to the point where I can barely talk to a Democrat about anything but the Republicrats are not much better. While King O tramples on the intent of the Founding Fathers we have a House and Senate controlled by the latter bozos and they could override this crap. It may have happened and I’m not aware but executive orders can be over ridden. Far as I know it hasn’t happened.

      Trump may not be the answer to my prayers but if both the Demotax’s and the Republicrats are hell bent on destroying him he’s the best so far. And there’s no doubt that the “lady” belongs in an orange jump suit. After living with King O you could random pick somebody from a ghetto and they couldn’t do worse than he has/is.

    • #28993
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      I was listening to American Family Radio yesterday.
      The host was taking calls and the subject was politics.
      This guy called in from my home state and said he just wasn’t sure what to do because he was a Christian and had serious reservations about Trump and he just didn’t know if he could vote for him.
      The host explained that the next president is going to have the task of assigning a new Supreme Court justice, and if the choice is conservative, Christian values may be upheld, but if the choice is liberal, there will be no balancing vote for Christian values. He asked if the caller agreed with that?
      Caller said he guessed so, but he wasn’t sure that Trump would keep his word and elect a conservative justice.
      Then the host said, let me just ask you a couple simple questions ok?
      What is the likelihood, in your opinion, that Trump will keep his word, and assign a conservative to the Supreme Court?
      The caller thought for a minute and said: “honestly? I’d give it a 50-50 chance.”
      Then the host asked him: “so then let’s say that any of the democratic hopefuls win the election. What’s the chances they will fill that seat with a conservative voice?”
      The caller said and I quote: “uuuuuuuhhhh………….zero!”
      Then the host said: “well I’m no math professor, but I’d say you just summed it up as Trump being the only choice.”

      Frankly, I’m very worried about our country. This is the same ignorant attitude that lost us the last election.
      I hear folks saying they are just going to go cast their vote and continue to ignore the political issues in this country because there’s nothing they can do to make a difference.
      I hear folks saying that Trump embraces the LGBT movement, so they can’t vote for him, but they can’t in good conscience vote for Hillary either, so they don’t know what to do.
      They say they refuse to vote for “the lesser of two evils”.

      I say we had better start standing up and making our voice heard or all the freedoms we love are going to be thoroughly trampled.
      I firmly believe that the conservative opinion far outweighs that of the left, and all their special interest groups combined.
      The only reason they have a voice at all is because conservatives have a very bad habit of thinking we are entitled to our freedoms free of charge, and if it ain’t free then we won’t lift a finger to protect it.
      I wonder if anybody really thinks about the fact that people died on American soil in hopes that they could secure an opportunity to keep fighting for these freedoms indefinitely.
      ​​​​​​​That’s why the first amendment was written into the constitution. That’s why the second amendment was written also.
      Why in that order? I assume it was because it was understood that a man would fight with the first, before he resorted to the second.

      How far we have fallen. How few are willing to risk ANYTHING at all in the pursuit of their happiness. It’s a “zero risk, and serve it to me on a silver platter if it’s not too inconvenient please” philosophy of patriotism. If the rights and freedoms of these people are shredded by those who are not nearly so interested in fulfilling their sense of entitlement, the freedom squatters scream that it’s not fair, and it’s not right, and they don’t deserve to be treated this way. Until of course, they get used to not having that freedom, and they just continue squatting and making the most of it.
      I’m sure in their own minds, they figure they did all they could do and at least the opposition knows how they feel.

      This is not patriotism. Patriotism is fighting for the freedoms we enjoy by being educated about the political process, knowing what the issues are in the first place, writing letters, emails, and altogether making sure the people we elected know we are watching, and that we are in fact the squeaky wheel that keeps the apple cart rolling. There is so much that a man can do short of taking up arms, but most conservatives have bought more rifles than they have sent letters or done anything other than cast a vote (if they even bring themselves to do that).

      This country was built by honest men who were strong in their convictions who understood that if they do not speak up, they will not be able to. They had every skill necessary to run this country, but business still had to be conducted on a domestic level, so they appointed representatives to do that job for them. You would certainly think that if your hired man does not represent you in all he does, there would be something said to make him aware that he is in jeopardy of losing his position, but politicians pretty much win the election and are free to do what they want to those they represent. I liken it to a man who hires a stranger on the recommendation of that same stranger, hands him the keys to his house and his bank account, and goes away on vacation. Then, when he returns to find his house sold, his bank account dry, and his car stolen, he screams to his neighbors about the injustice of it all………..then sucks it up and gets ready to do it again.

      Regardless of how this election turns out, and the moral fortitude or lack thereof that becomes evident about the candidates, this country is doomed if people do not start taking politics seriously and doing something, and saying something about the obvious wrong that is being done right under their noses. The sense of entitlement must be destroyed in the conservative party, as well as our willingness to just watch in horror like scared roaches as our jobs are shipped overseas, terrorists are shipped in to pillage our land, radical liberals twist the truth into something it is not, and strip or liberties and safety away to the cheers of their cohorts.

      It’s never too late to change a broken country into something wonderful, but it requires those who actually run the country (that would be the tax paying American. Not the politicians as we are often told) to take a stand for what is right, and make it a life’s mission to hold the line.

      Freedom isn’t free.

    • #28996
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      God. Family. Country.

      I take a different view than those that has been expressed on this forum as of yet. Ted Cruz became incensed with accusations Donald Trump made regarding his father and his wife during the primary race. I refer to his own statements made the day after his now infamous speech by himself to support this. He reportedly made a ‘pledge’ to support the eventual candidate who secured the primary vote.

      This placed him in a moral dilemma. Support his family, or support his ‘pledge’. It appears Mr. Cruz referred to the opening statement in my post to decide what position to stand by. I find no fault in his choice.

      The Trump campaign knew weeks before the convention that Mr. Cruz was not going to support Mr. Trump. Reportedly, 2 days before his scheduled speaking date, his position was reaffirmed via a telephone conversation. And, reportedly, Mr. Trump was provided with a copy of Mr. Cruz’s speech 2 hours before his speaking engagement, and Donald approved him to go on.

      Now, WHY was this allowed. There are only 2 possibilities. Either the Trump campaign is COMPLETELY inept, allowing dissention to take center stage the night before Mr. Trump’s acceptance speech, or, this was a planned maneuver. Paul Manafort is no stranger to politics. You deduce the rest for yourself.

      So. WHY was this done? Simple. Mr. Cruz and the extreme conservative wing within the Republican party were the only serious threats to Donald. What to do? Why, let Ted be Ted. Let Ted make his speech. And at the appropriate time, have a few ‘volunteer’s’ begin booing. And let the nature of American’s do the rest. As American’s, we absolutely LOVE to tear people down. And just as hoped, Ted gave his speech, the booing was begun, and the rest is history. Ted and the conservative wing are no longer an issue. All that. In 1 night. With 1 speech. Still think Donald doesn’t understand politics? Shoot. Even the Clinton’s are taking careful notes.

      I find it . . . staggering that Ted Cruz is being lambasted for failing to demonstrate integrity, when so far as I can tell, integrity is EXACTLY what he did display. He did not make negative comments toward Donald, even after all Donald said about him and his family before. He simply did not say he supported Donald. And Ted Cruz’s political career may well be over. Probably for the best. Why a man like Ted Cruz gets into the cesspool of national politics is beyond me, anyway. I suppose the man thought he could make a difference. I wish Ted Cruz were my neighbor. No doubt in my mind where his priorities are. He held onto his priorities. Would he have been better off to stay home, politically? Perhaps. And he would have received wide criticism for that, as well.

      God. Family. Country.

      I voted for Cruz in the Primary. And so far as I am concerned, he proved to me that I made a sound choice.

      I realize none of you could care less what I think. And such is how it should be.

      Have a good evening, and God bless.

    • #28997
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      That’s neither how it should be, nor how it is. Your opinion matters a great deal.
      However, much as I agree with your breakdown of priorities, I still hold that when a man’s word is given, it’s binding before God first, then before your family, and then to your country (if that applies, and in this case it does).
      I very rarely give my word, but when I do, I understand that circumstances might change to where it is uncomfortable to keep it. In fact I expect it as a near certainty.

      That said, I didn’t expect Cruz to give the guy s big kiss on stage. I didn’t expect him to say he agrees with the guy. What I expected him to do was to keep his word and help the party to unify, rather than trying to advertise himself as a viable write in on the ballot.

      To quote Franklin: “We must indeed all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

      I think Cruz is a great guy, and I certainly wouldn’t mind being neighbors with him, but I don’t want him as a president.
      There are worse threats than Trump out there if he takes that job.

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      If you look into Trump’s ‘word’, it isn’t worth very much. Nor is his handshake. He passes off his errors as someone elses. BUT he’s the only chance now, Cruz isn’t like in DC as he fights the establ ishment, I would have a hard time shaking hands with someone who publicaly denigrated my family as Trump did to Cruz. I couldn’t believe Slafly supported him but then she has her own fight going on for her company. AFR has been warning us about Trump but it doesn’t get much attention like PBS does. We the people are pretty spoiled. As far as I am concerened, the strategy now is to get Trump in and make sure the House and Senate get straightened out – where the real people power should be.

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      I agree with that popper. The party has got to UNIFY no matter what. if we don’t figure out how to do that then Hilary walks away with the country, and I’ll be perfectly honest: that terrifies me. I’m an outspoken Christian, gunsmith, homescooler, white, male, middle class, American, gunowner, and the husband of one wife for life. It looks pretty bleak.

      I disagree with trump on just about everything, but I do think the man is into building things, and the way the country has been run by the left, pretty much does everything but make money and help people to work together.
      Regardless, I know Hilary much better than any of the candidates, and by God, I’m throwing in behind the strongest force opposing her, and I’m praying everybody else does too.
      I don’t have a problem with Cruz despising Trump. I believe I would too. What I have s problem with is his speech and his statement to “vote your conscience”, which is political speak for “unify behind Trump at your own risk”. If we don’t figure out a way to unify behind SOMEBODY, for this election, then the Supreme Court is lost, and if we lose a voice in the highest court in the land, the next time that slot is open, we won’t have anything left to fight peacefully for.
      I don’t ever want to be in a place where the only way for me to live my life as I see fit is to commit an act of treason, and that’s what I see looming on the horizon.

      God help us help ourselves.

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      Do you want Trump or Clinton in the White House? We don’t know how Trump will turn out. We DO know about Clinton. In my mind it’s as simple as ABC.

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      “I’ll probably do a super PAC, you know, when they run, against Kasich for 10 to $20 million dollars. Against Ted Cruz –” From the Donald’s own mouth. Too bad he doesn’t pick on Cornyn, left-middle roader, who’s gun bill wouldn’t pass the Senate so he tried to get support in the House – from the Libs. Going to be an interesting year..

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      Lets have a reality check here. IIRC, Trump’s VP pick was the only R of his ‘list’. He has sworn to ‘get’ Cruz. Castro (lib D Rep. from S.A.) wants Cruz seat. Trump will want a second term, Cruz was peoples apparent 2nd choice so he has to go. If Trump’s first term is a shambles like Obama, Cruz could step in and take it. mene, mene, tekel, parsin

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      I don’t know if you agree with my posts in the first part of this thread, but I spent some time on YouTube the other night and watched Ted Cruz’s speech for myself. I found it to be inspirational and solid in every way. I feel it was grossly misrepresented by the conservative radio news source I listen to.
      I feel compelled to apologize for my words at the beginning of this thread and retract the negative things I said against the senator. I was misinformed, and I sincerely beg your pardon, and that of Mr. Cruz.

      I greatly regret his not receiving the nomination for president.

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      Tonite,
      Bill OReilly attempted to guide Trump over the blue star family issue.
      Hopefully it sinks into Trump if he does what OReilly advises he will out run Hillary.

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      The spokeman for the State Department says the millions given to Iran was not hostage money. Even though senior Tehran official admit it was.
      Personally I’m tired of the deceit and lying by the current administration. Hillary has and is a member of the current administration so why oh why would anyone support her amazes me.

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      Dont get me wrong. Lying still frosts me worse than anything else. I just think that Cruz has done more truth telling in Washington than 99% of the elected officials have.

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      I need a sign made from that

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