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    • #30671
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      Nothing that I did myself just found these and thought I would share:
      10529-attach-993.pdf

      10528-attach-992.pdf

    • #30672
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      Hornady / pacfic
      powder /shot Bushing charts:

      powder-charge-bushings.pdf

    • #30677
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      Thanks for sharing, Sarge. These will come in handy.

    • #30713
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      Here is some notes for cast bullets :

      CalibreManufacturerBulletStated WeightTrue WeightLengthSDBC (EST)
      0.224LYMLFN GC 2251073737.750.4200.1070.091
      0.224LYMLRN GC 2254384444.750.5000.1270.094
      0.224LYMLFN GC 2254154949.750.5800.1420.116
      0.224RCBSSP GC 22-055-SP53530.6000.1510.149
      0.224LYMLRN GC 2254625757.750.6100.1640.107
      0.224RCBSSP GC 22-055-SP57570.6300.1620.160
      0.225NOE225-37-FNGC (Ly 225107)37380.4100.1040.128
      0.225NOE225-55-FN GC (MX2-22)55560.6350.1550.188
      0.225NOE225-55-FN GC (RCBS 22-055 SP)55600.6450.1550.181
      0.225NOE225-60-RN (Saeco221)60610.6660.1690.170
      0.225NOE225-62-FN (MX3-22-EX)62650.7250.1750.203
      0.225NOE225-68-FN (225407)68630.6900.1920.195
      0.225NOE225-70-RN70700.7500.1980.153
      0.226NOE226-45-RF (BRP)45460.4800.1260.115
      0.243LYMLRN LOV GC 2454968384.50.8000.2040.202
      0.243LYMLRN LOV GC 2454979394.50.8900.2290.230
      0.243RCBSSP GC 243-095-SP93930.9600.2250.258
      0.243LYMLFN GC 24549899100.50.9500.2430.210
      0.245NOE245-75-FN (RCBS 22-0055FN)75730.6450.1780.173
      0.245NOE245-80-FN (MX3-245-EX)80780.7250.1900.199
      0.264LYMLRN GC 2664691401401.0640.2870.323
      0.264LYMLRN GC 2666731501501.0800.3070.305
      0.284LYMLRN GC 287448118122.50.8000.2170.165
      0.284LYMLRN GC 287346135139.50.9400.2470.235
      0.284RCBSSP GC 7mm-145-SIL1421420.9800.2520.271
      0.284LYMLRN LOV GC 287405150154.51.4400.2740.245
      0.284LYMLRN GC 287308164168.51.1200.2980.325
      0.284RCBSSP GC 7mm-168-SP1661661.1400.2940.305
      0.308LYMLSp GC 3113591151180.7200.1780.181
      0.308RCBSSP GC 30-115-SP1151150.7200.1730.175
      0.308NOE311-115-FN (311008)1151180.6380.1730.178
      0.308NOE311-115-RN1151180.7150.1730.176
      0.308NOE311-115_FN (311316)1151140.6150.1730.180
      0.308LYMLFN GC 3114411171200.7000.1810.143
      0.308NOE311-117-TC (311441)1171170.6680.153
      0.308LYMLRN GC 3115761201230.7200.1850.172
      0.308LYMLRN LOV GC 3114651221250.7300.1880.163
      0.308NOE311-122-RN (311456)1221250.7390.1840.163
      0.308RCBSSPSpitz GC 7.62-130-SPL1251250.9300.1880.300
      0.308LYMLRN 3114101301300.8600.1960.239
      0.308LYMLBN GC 3114401471500.8200.2260.134
      0.308RCBSFN GC 30-150-FN1481480.8200.2230.220
      0.308NOE311-148-RN (311440)1481470.7910.2230.146
      0.308NOE311-150-SP (311414)1501480.9850.2260.281
      0.308LYMLRN LOV GC 3114661521550.9200.2330.250
      0.308NOE311-152-RN (311466)1521570.9250.2290.214
      0.308NOE311-155-FN1551550.8870.2330.220
      0.308RCBSSP GC 308-165-SIL1651650.9900.2480.290
      0.308NOE310-165-FN (30XCB)1651650.9650.2480.287
      0.308NOE308-167-FN (308403)1671740.9580.2510.268
      0.308NOE311-169-RN (311291)1691700.9480.2540.193
      0.308LYMLRN GC 3112911701730.9500.2610.202
      0.308LYMLFN GC 311411731760.9400.2650.220
      0.308NOE311-175-FN (Saeco 315)1751761.0070.2640.265
      0.308LYMLSp LOV GC 3114671771801.0900.2710.320
      0.308RCBSSP GC 30-180-SP1771771.0700.2670.290
      0.308LYMLFN GC 3114071801831.0200.2760.270
      0.308RCBSFN GC 30-180-FN1801801.0000.2710.255
      0.308NOE311-180-FN (K31)1801921.0850.2710.265
      0.308NOE311-180-FN (311041)1801810.9900.2710.284
      0.308NOE311-188-FN (30 Hunter)1881881.0390.2830.285
      0.308LYMLSp GC 3113341901931.1400.2910.340
      0.308NOE310-190-SP (31332)1901881.1360.2860.269
      0.308NOE311-190-SP (311332)1901881.1360.2860.269
      0.308NOE311-195-FN (RCBS 30-180-FN)1951951.0430.2940.263
      0.308NOE311-198-SP (311365)1981961.2660.2980.422
      0.308LYMLRN GC 3112992022051.1500.3090.377
      0.308NOE311-202-RN (311299)2022031.1750.3040.318
      0.308LYMLRN GC 3112902102131.1900.3210.305
      0.308LYMLRN GC 3112842142171.2000.3270.332
      0.308NOE311-214-RN (311284)2142181.2080.3220.251
      0.308NOE311-218-RN (311331)2182191.2000.3280.256
      0.308NOE311-247-FN (Whisper)2472401.3350.3720.441

      A lot of this information is derived via the bullet database posted on shooter forum author is quickload (http://www.shootforum.com/forum/bulletdb.html). Or from like in the case of NOE from NOE own drawings.

    • #30728
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      I can see you’re a big fan of LEE molds. :p

      Slim

    • #30735
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      NOPE, I don’t own a one (Lee) I try to only own NOE or Ideal/Lyman. I shy away from Lee and RCBS molds.
      I do like their handles though

    • #30742
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      I had to start somewhere and LEE was within my budget so I bought them (dies and molds). I have since diversified somewhat but still have the ones I started with. If not for LEE I would not have been able to afford casting and reloading. A poor man has poor means of achieving the end result, albeit probably not to the extent of many on this forum. It fills my needs for the time I have left above ground.

      I have obtained some better quality items along the way though.

      Slim

    • #30744
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      slim1836;n10616 wrote: I had to start somewhere and LEE was within my budget ……………..

      Oh trust me Slim I’m not knocking Lee molds they produce a good product for their market.
      If there was a one fits all we would not have differing manufacturers for products.
      The intents of my words was not meant to be a slam on Lee molds but rather to show my preference of mold manufacturers.
      Have I owned Lee molds? yes I have in the past. Let not my statements create a stigma against Lee, they are a good mold manufacturer.
      My statement of shying away from Lee and RCBS is based on I prefer to use from a set manufacturer if you look across product lines they all pretty much use the same designs with subtle difference, I like the way that NOE produces their molds the fact that Al has been great with me also spurs me to support his products.

    • #30772
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      I understand completely, I did not mean to imply anything against LEE nor try to open a discussion about them. My original reply was in jest as I saw no LEE molds in your chart. Most new casters and reloaders used their products and many still do, it’s just like Fords, Chevys, and Caddys.

      Slim

    • #30774
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      slim1836;n10649 wrote: I understand completely, I did not mean to imply anything against LEE nor try to open a discussion about them. My original reply was in jest as I saw no LEE molds in your chart. Most new casters and reloaders used their products and many still do, it’s just like Fords, Chevys, and Caddys.

      Slim

      Honestly did not notice a lack of Lee mold data, I pulled the data from a bullet database except for the NOE which I looked up each of the drawing and used the data that Al has on his forum… Hmm if I run across some Lee data I’ll post it thanks for pointing that out

    • #30778
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      OK went back and looked at the database found some Lee mold data

      CalibreManufacturerBulletStated WeightTrue WeightLengthSDBC
      0.309LEEC309-113-F1131130.630.1690.199
      0.309LEEC309-120-R1201200.7110.180.163
      0.309LEEC309-150-F1501500.8650.2240.264
      0.309LEEC309-160-R1601600.8960.2390.252
      0.309LEEC309-170-F1701700.9830.2540.268
      0.309LEEC309-180-R1801801.010.2690.317
      0.311LEE311-093-1R93930.5330.1370.125
      0.311LEE311-100-2R1001000.5730.1480.174
      0.312LEEC312-155-2R1551550.9360.2270.268
      0.312LEECTL312-160-2R1601550.9110.2270.276
      0.312LEEC312-185-1R1851851.0760.2710.247

    • #30782
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      what about Lee 7mm & 8mm specs?

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      let me see what I can find for you Uber

      CalibreManufacturerBulletStated WeightTrue WeightLengthSDBC above V1
      0.309LEEC309-113-F1131130.630.1690.199
      0.309LEEC309-120-R1201200.7110.180.163
      0.309LEEC309-150-F1501500.8650.2240.264
      0.309LEEC309-160-R1601600.8960.2390.252
      0.309LEEC309-170-F1701700.9830.2540.268
      0.309LEEC309-180-R1801801.010.2690.317
      0.311LEE311-093-1R93930.5330.1370.125
      0.311LEE311-100-2R1001000.5730.1480.174
      0.312LEEC312-155-2R1551550.9360.2270.268
      0.312LEECTL312-160-2R1601550.9110.2270.276
      0.312LEEC312-185-1R1851851.0760.2710.247
      0.285LEEC285-130-R1301300.9180.2290.305
      0.324LEEC324-175-1R1751750.9520.2380.216
      0.323LYMLRN LOV GC 3234701651680.850.230.187
      0.323LYMLSp GC 3234712142171.170.2970.475
      0.323LYMLRN GC 3233782432461.260.3370.41
      0.329LEEC329-205-1R2052051.010.2710.361
      0.401LEE401-145-SWC1451450.5450.1290.117
      0.401LEE401-145-TC1751750.5770.1550.141
      0.401LEETL401-175-SWC1751750.570.1550.141
      0.4LYMLFN 4016541501500.5280.1340.074
      0.4LYMLFN 4016381751750.5870.1560.088

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      Mold to Top Punches

      Lee Mold #Nominal DiameterLyman / Ideal Mold #Nominal DiameterWeightBullet TypeRCBS Mold #Nominal DiameterWeightBullet TypeLyman Top Punch #RCBS Top Punch #
      22 Bator 0.224646
      C285-130-R 0.285413
      C309-113-F 0.3098
      C309-120-R 0.309465
      C309-130-R 0.309465
      C309-150-F 0.3098, 402
      C309-180-R 0.309467
      C309-200-R 0.309467, 402
      311-093-1R 0.311465
      311-100-2R 0.311226
      C312-155-2R 0.312467
      C312-185-1R 0.312395
      C324-175-1R 0.324470, 467, NEI 59
      356-102-1R 0.356311
      356-111-1R 0.356311
      356-120-TC 0.356402550
      356-125-2R 0.356311
      TL356-124-2R 0.356311
      TL356-124-TC 0.356402
      358-105-SWC 0.358467, 402
      358-113WC 0.358495
      358-117-1R 0.358311
      358-125-RF 0.358429429
      358-140-SWC 0.358554, 402554
      358-148-WC 0.358495
      358-150-1R 0.358311
      358-150-SWC 0.358554, 429554
      358-158-RF 0.35843, 495
      358-166 SWC 0.358402
      358-178-1R 0.358311
      C358-158-SWC 0.358429429
      TL358-148-WC 0.358495
      TL358-158-2R 0.358311
      TL358-158-SWC 0.358429550
      401-175-TC 0.401460, 43
      410-195-SWC 0.40143
      TL401-175-SWC 0.40143
      429-200-RF 0.429649
      429-208-WC 0.429421
      429-214-SWC 0.429421
      429-214-SWC 0.429460
      429-240-2R 0.429251
      429-240-R 0.429374
      429-240-SWC 0.429460
      C429-240-SWC 0.429421
      C430-310-RF 0.43649600
      TL430-240-SWC 0.43241
      452-160-RF 0.452649
      452-190-SWC 0.452460
      452-200-RF 0.452649
      452-200-SWC 0.452460
      452-228-1R 0.452374374
      452-230-TC 0.452460
      452-252-SWC 0.452421, 424
      452-255-RF 0.452190, 649,191 424
      C452-300-RF 0.452649424
      TL452-200-SWC 0.452344, 43
      TL452-230-2R 0.452374
      TL452-230-TC 0.452460191
      457-340-F 0.457 424
      457-405-F 0.457 424
      459-405-HB 0.459374374
      2253530.22343grsFN PB415
      2253720.22341grsSP PB450
      225360.22540-98 grsFN PB415
      225370.22532-91grsSP PB450
      2252080.225 438
      2252090.22518-52grsRN PB438
      2252300.22547grsRN PB438
      2253220.22555grsFN PB415
      2253580.22541grsFN PB415
      2254150.22548grsFN PB GC415
      2254380.22544grsRNGC438
      2254500.22548grsSP GC450
      2254620.22557grsRN GC438
      2254870.22543grsSP PB450
      2256460.22555grsS-P GC646
      2256460.22555grsRN GC646
      226360.22640-98 grsFN PB415
      226370.22632-91grsSP PB450
      226380.22660 grsFN HP PB415
      2262080.22619-53grsFN PB438
      2262090.22618-52grsRN PB438
      2262090.22618-52grsRN PB438
      2263220.22655grsFN PB415
      228340.22848-63grsFN PB415
      228350.22829-81grsSP PB450
      2281510.22845grsFN PB415
      2283670.22859grsSP GC450
      2283910.228 FN PB415
      228367-530.22853grsFN PB450
      236390.23645-75grsFN PB415
      236400.23650-94grsSP PB450
      2361990.23631-98grsSP PB450
      2442530.24365grsRN PB450
      2442030.24495grsRN PB203
      2454960.24485grsRN GC203
      2454970.24593grsRN GC203
      2454980.24599grsFN GC498
      2454990.246110grsRN GC203
      2524350.253 203
      257160.25780-140grsFN PB420
      257170.25766-157grsFN PB420
      257180.25770-130grsSP PB498
      257190.25752-127grsSP PB418
      257200.25746-96grsFN PB420
      257210.25787grsFN PB420
      257270.25775grsFN PB
      257420.25765grsFNGC420
      2570210.25787grsFN PB420
      2572050.25780grsFN PB420
      2572310.25766-111grsFN PB420
      2572830.25785grsFN PB420
      2572850.25787grsFN PB420
      2573060.257115grsFN GC420
      2573120.25789grsFN GC420
      2573250.257113grsRN GC325
      2573610.25781grsSP PB418
      2573820.25788grsFN PB420
      2573880.25780grsSP GC418
      2574180.25798grsSP GC418
      2574200.25765grsFN GC420
      2574540.25792grsRN GC463
      2574630.25775grsRN GC463
      2574640.25789grsRN GC463
      2633140.26390grsRN PB325
      2663050.266101grsRN GC305
      2663240.266119grsRN GC455
      2663860.266105grsSP PB386
      2664550.266127grsRNGC455
      2664690.266140grsRNGC463
      2666730.266150grsSP GC SIL641
      2686450.268FN GC SIL463
      2693860.269105grsSP PB
      2804110.280138grsSP PB411
      2804120.280136grsRN GC468
      2804680.280115grsRN GC468
      2804730.280125grsSP GC473
      2806420.280150grsFN GC641
      280468S0.280105grsRN GC468
      2852020.285120grsRN GC346
      2852210.28590-180grsFN PB420
      2852220.28591-181grsSP PB377
      2852280.285112grsFN HP PB
      2853460.285135grsSP GC346
      2853730.285122grsFN PB377
      2853770.285148grsFN GC377
      2854480.285118grsRN GC346
      2871290.287124grsRN GC346
      2872020.287120grsRN GC346
      2872210.28790-180grsFN PB420
      2872210.28790-180grsFN PB420
      2872220.28791-181grsSP PB377
      2873080.287164grsRN GC468
      2873460.287135grsRNGC346
      2873730.287122grsFN PB377
      2873770.287148grsSP GC377
      2874050.287150grsRN GC346
      2874420.287139grsSP GC377
      2874480.287118grsRN GC346
      2876410.287160grsSIL641
      2913790.290137grsSP GC377
      2943800.294 473
      2991520.29980grsRN Heel465
      2991530.299105grsRN Heel465
      2991540.299105grsRN Heel465
      2991550.29980grsFN HB465
      3001360.302 RN GC465
      30810.308200-250grsFNPB8
      30820.308150-211grsRN PB465
      30830.308158-219grsFNPB8
      30840.308120-200grsFN PB8
      30850.308129-213grsFN PB
      30860.30874-150FN PB8
      30870.308153FN PB8
      30890.308100FN PB
      308100.30895-210SP PB278
      308120.30895-201SP PB278
      308150.308125-175grsFN PB
      308220.308125grsRN FB468
      308220.308108grsRN PB468
      308230.308125grsRN PB8
      308240.308109RN HB
      308250.308240grsRN PB465
      3081560.308150grsFN PB
      3082060.308170grsRN PB465
      3082230.308150-206grsRN FB445
      3082240.308195grsFN PB8
      3082340.30872-136grsFN PB8
      3082450.30887grsRN PB465
      31110.311200-250grsFNPB8
      31120.311150-211grsRN PB465
      31120.311150-211grsRN PB465
      31130.311158-219grsFNPB8
      31140.311120-200grsFN PB8
      31160.31174-150FN PB8
      31170.311153FN PB8
      31180.311100FN PB
      311100.31195-210SP PB278
      311110.31195-201SP PB278
      311120.311150-211grsRN PB465
      311140.31175-225grsFN PB8
      311220.311 RN PB468
      311230.311125grsFNPB8
      311250.311240grsRN PB465
      311330.311100grsHP PB8
      3110080.311115grsFN8
      3110410.311173grsFNGC8
      3111570.311165grsFN PB8
      3112060.311125grsRN PB465
      3112230.311205grsRN PB445
      3112240.311195grsRN PB465
      3112340.311120grsFN PB8
      3112400.31192grsRN PB465
      3112410.311125 / 155grsRN PB465
      3112450.31187grsRN PN465
      3112520.31177grsRN PB465
      3112550.311115grsRN PB465
      3112560.311220grsRN PB465
      3112570.311110grsRN PB465
      3112590.311150 /175grsRN PB467
      3112680.311175grsRN PB467
      3112740.311195grsRN PB346
      3112760.311 RN PB467
      3112770.311 RN PB467
      3112780.311197grsSP PB278
      3112790.311 SP PB278
      3112800.311196grsSP PB278
      3112810.311175grsFN PB8
      3112820.311217grsFN PB467
      3112840.311214grsRNGC284
      3112870.311176grsRN PB467
      3112880.311175grsRN PB467
      3112900.311210grsRN GC467
      3112910.311170grsRN GC465
      3112990.311200grsRN GC467
      3113040.311 RN GC8
      3113160.311112grsFN GC8
      3113290.311185grsSP GC329
      3113310.311218grsRN GC466
      3113320.311180grsSP GC413
      3113330.311197grsRN GC278
      3113340.311190grsSP GC413
      3113350.311206grsSP GC467
      3113400.311188grsRN GC329
      3113510.311158grsRN GC329
      3113590.311115grsSP GC359
      3113650.311198grsRN GC329
      3113750.311168grsSP GC413
      3113970.311195grsRN GC329
      3114030.311167grsFN PB8
      3114070.311180grsFN GC445
      3114100.311130grsSP PB467
      3114130.311169grsSP GC413
      3114140.311150grsSP GC329
      3114190.31188grsFN GC8
      3114370.311169grsSP GC413
      3114400.311147grsFN GC470
      3114410.311117grsFN GC8
      3114650.311122grsRN GC465
      3114660.311152grs RN GC467
      3114670.311177grsRN GC467
      3116440.311190grsSP GC SIL644
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      3116790.311195grsSP GC359
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    • #30875
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      Do you have any intel on the Lyman 287641?

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      Lyman # 641

      Which BTW will work with 280642 and 266673.
      Hope that helps

    • #30890
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      Thank you Mike for your speedy reply. I do have that top punch. I was wondering if you had any specification on that bullet…….

    • #30905
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      For most of us, any discussion of rifle or handgun accuracy is summarized in terms of groups

      – extreme spread –
      Or the measurement between the centers of the most widely spread bullet holes.
      So if my group size measures 1.75″ outside to outside I subtract my bullet diameter ( say a 30 caliber so .308″) = 1.442″ This method is the new comer to expressing accuracy

      However two other methods exist and have been used extensively, even today by the military and the civilian populace to express accuracy.

      Mean Radius method

      now your saying huh so let’s try a better graphic

      so 2.5+1.03+2.01+1.3=6.84 divide that by the number of shots (5 here) -1 so 4 – 1.71
      Why is this valid well I can now predict that from center of group size, now if I have my sight adjusted to the center that means that all of my shots should fall within 1.71″ of my point of aim.

      Another method is Figure of merit in order to calculate this we would add the vertical and horizontal then average the sum so a group that is 2.5″ vertical by 1″ horizontal is 3.5 divide by 2 = 1.75

      Now why in the good Lord earth would I go to the trouble of typing all this ? Well figures don’t lie, but liars figure. The problem is every one of these measurement can be called MOA measurement in a conversation. Usually most publications will denote figure of merit, mean radius, or extreme spread. Although some don’t.

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      For most of us, any discussion of rifle or handgun accuracy is summarized in terms of groups

      – extreme spread –
      Or the measurement between the centers of the most widely spread bullet holes.
      So if my group size measures 1.75″ outside to outside I subtract my bullet diameter ( say a 30 caliber so .308″) = 1.442″ This method is the new comer to expressing accuracy
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      I measure from the outside of the one hole to the inside of the second hole. (or inside to outside.) It yields the same results as measuring center to center.

      It’s analogous to laying out stud walls in framing carpentry. Some guys mark centers, some mark leading edge and go, (and some trailing edge and back.) The distance between each stud is the same. (Well it should be. I’ve followed behind some prettty shabby work in my day…..)

      I hope this helps…..

    • #30911
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      Cant find much so far, on the Lym 287641
      But sectional density is .281 according to online calculators, reported recommended usage is listed as Silhouette.
      A bullet that is really close is the 287308 shape is a bit different but length should be close, but that bullet has a .325 SD according to the Lyman manuals.

    • #30929
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      Yes, not much on the 287641 It’s too new to be recorded in the Lyman 3rd Casting Manual (BC info in there). I appreciate your help in these matters.
      U7

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      Sgt.Mike,

      Like the Avery label idea. I’m ordering some labels now. Thanks, Jay

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