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      Screwbolts
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      Arsenal’s 30HVTH 170 gr Sliver From a Stevens 325C 30-30 Had a chance to shoot some 30HVTH boolitz from another rifle. My Stevens 325C in 30-30 has a 21″ 12″ twist barrel as most 30-30s. The old light rifle handles the Sliver in great fashion. All shooting was done from my 100 yard bench, all groups are 10 shot groups. I loaded the Arsenal 30HVTH 170 gr Sliver to a COL of 2.550, at that length they fed perfect from the mag and there was no engraving of the nose. Loaded rounds would also eject from the rifles port without hanging up. I was using RP brass that had been well fire formed in this rifle. The cases were neck sized using my 308 Win LEE colet die. For a scope this old rifle has a weaver side mount and carries a fine older Bushnell Banner ( B&L, Japan, Marked) in 3×9 configuration. I believe these loads will be close to factory velocity from this rifle.

      All loads shown in this post were shot using Winchester large PISTOL primers.

      The 5 cavity Arsenal mold that I have with my alloy is dropping very consistently at .3115. This alloy was 6 pounds of hosp. isotope lead, 3 pounds of my old lino, 3 pounds of my WW alloy, dropped from a bottom pour LEE pro 20 220V. Water dropped and then froze for 24 hrs in my freezer. After that they check 22 by filing base smooth and checking with a LEE kit.

      I didn’t get the crony out for this but will crony these loads and edit in the future. This groups was shot not holding the forend of the rifle, just resting on front bag.

      The first group shot was with Acc X-Terminator powder, 28 gr. I have had very good performance with this powder in 222 rem so I gave it a try here. My rifle has shown in the past to liking .312 boolitz so all projectiles were sized and lubed in my 450 with a .312 die using Simple Lube. (edit, cronied @ 2046 FPS 3-16-16 )

      The following group was with IMR 4198, 22 gr. a proven performer in this rifle in the past with LEE 309170 FNs and a 311291 clone from an Ohaus mold that I have. after the 3rd shot I tried holding the forend on the bags and that had a very positive result. this light rifle liked to move around when firied. ( edit, cronied @ 1883 FPS 3-16-16 )

      The rifles favorite load in the past has been 28.5 gr of Acc 2520 with either of the above listed projectiles. This powder charge and the Arsenal 30 HVTH 170 gr Sliver didn’t disappoint me. WOW my old Stevens likes this boolit and powder charge. In the Past this 28.5 gr of my lot of Acc 2520 has consistently cronyed 1965 FPS from my rifle. I will crony it again with the Arsenal Target Hunting Sliver, but after shooting this many nearly full house loads from the light Stevens 325C I decided I had had enough fun for that day. (edit cronied @ 1983 FPS 3-16-16 )

      I also just found my stash of Wolf Large Pistol primers and want to shot some groups with them.

      Ken

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      I have been shooting a Sav. 340 in 30/30 which has served me well for the time I have owned it. But I recently found an almost pristine 325. Which has 0 blue wear marks on the gun or the magazine. I will be working up loads for the new Savage shortly.
      The only mold you menchan that I have is the 311291. But I do have most of the old favorates 311466 / 311465 / 041 / RD311-165. So I have a lot of choices to make.
      I hope to get as good of groups as you are getting

    • #25906
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      Kevin S;n4347 wrote: I have been shooting a Sav. 340 in 30/30 which has served me well for the time I have owned it. But I recently found an almost pristine 325. Which has 0 blue wear marks on the gun or the magazine. I will be working up loads for the new Savage shortly.
      The only mold you menchan that I have is the 311291. But I do have most of the old favorates 311466 / 311465 / 041 / RD311-165. So I have a lot of choices to make.
      I hope to get as good of groups as you are getting

      Hi Kevin S, I had the NOE 311 165 RD for a time. the reason I decided to move it was because the FN would sometimes hang up in my rifle while feeding from the mag. It shot fine but wouldn’t always feed well from the mag.

      Ken

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      Hello all, just joining if I may. Jared at Arsenal Molds sent me the link here after telling him about my frustrations with casting for my Winchester 30-30 ’94. I’m reasonably experienced in casting handgun rounds by the thousands, and I handloading factory 7mm for 1000 yard competition. But I just haven’t found the right mold for the 94. I’ve been trying a Lyman 311291 but even when the bullet is seated deep it jams into the rifling. There is such a short throat. It doesn’t have this problem when using factory jacketed bullets. And accuracy is much better with the factory rounds. So, looking at both Arsenal 30-30 molds as they appear to taper more quickly and might not jam into the rifling. Any thoughts please?
      Rudy in the Florida Keys

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      Hello Rudy,

      As stated in Post #1 , In my Stevens 325C 30/30 the 30HVTH 170gr Sliver does not engrave when chambering. The Boolit does have a .130 meplat and that may be enough for loading in tube magazines, I do not have a 94 or a Lever gun of any type other than an old Ithica Deer Slayer,single shot 12 ga. shot gun.

      IMHO this boolit may be good, but I also believe the RD clones from either Arsenal or NOE would possibly the best option. The RD was IIRC designed for the 30/30 lever gun right from the get go. I had the NOE version and it shot great in both PB and GC. The only reason I don’t use it now in my 325C is because of the way the Stevens barrel is shaped at the chamber opening, the wide meplat of the RD would hang up on the edge of the chamber opening when fed from the mag. This is not a problem in a lever gun. Take a look at the Ranch Dog Clones from them,311-170 grain RF.

      Ken

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      Ken, thanks for the reply. I was seriously considering the Arsenal RD clone 170 when I saw your test report. I’m close to ordering one, and then selling my Lyman 311291. Thanks again, Rudy

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      The Ranch Dog molds were designed specifically for Marlin .30-30 rifles. I have one that drops 165 gr. It is the non-gas check model. NOE now carries the Ranch Dog molds.

      I loaded .30-30 for a friends Marlin. It would take Lee 170 gr GC bullets from only one of three molds that my shooting buddies had between us. The nose on the other two were too large of a diameter. Never had a problem with the two Winchester rifles in the group.

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