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      So I’ve been visiting with the good idea fairy …….

      We know that a heavy for cal is the way to go for efficient use of cast especially when case capacity , caliber BC and recoil limits just don’t take us where we want to go .
      Subsonic is of course all the rage despite the SHUSH act being essentially dead in the water .

      The good idea fairy says to me ” load up some Unique in that 1895 under them 4?? gr bullets and let’s just see .”
      Ok well if it’s stupid but it works it’s not stupid . Right ?
      So I slapped some papered 350s , HB 380s and solid 414 gr M-P and a 457193 together over 11.0 , 9 for a 45 Colts 265 is standard loading and with a 350 it is only 20,000 psi suggested so …..
      Anyway it went off without a hitch and ran high 900s for all 4 bullets . Take that , I says to a 454 in a 92′ .

      So now I have this genius idea that a 500-535gr would make a great sub sonic load for back yard pest control 100 yd big pigs should succumb nicely and of course there’s Bambi’s evil twin . I don’t recall the numbers but even by scale a 250gr 30 cal has nothing on this and the NOE 535 offers a suggested BC of .36?? .

      The question is to make it run in the 1895 should I cut the brass or scrounge up some Hornady LevEvolution brass and make an Ohio straight wall pistol carbine out of it or just deep seat with a ridiculously slow powder ?
      I’m leaning toward the deep seat because ruined brass .
      No idea what to expect with a compressed load of 4831 .

      I of course have a 45 Raptor to toy with and a 3″ OAL isn’t a problem in it . But the bullet has to be sized down to .454 . Details the 535 has enough groove as to not be an issue and the .446 nose will work in my specimen .

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      Quickload says that with the Lyman 535 seated to 2.550″ with 35gns of IMR 4831 at 100% load density, that you might expect to get 1027fps @ 14kpsi from a 20″ barrel, with about 60% of the powder burnt.

      Now as to how it will actually behave???…

       

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      I wonder if you would be interested in running it for IMR 4350 ? Maybe H322 ? I think H322 will be too much of a good thing . If the slow powders are consistent it will be great ….. But past experience tends to suggest not compressed a little might be the answer as long as it doesn’t jump ……
      Maybe Ms will buy me QL for Christmas .

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      37gns of IMR 4350 at 102% load density should give 1149fps @ 20.4kpsi.  65% of powder burnt

      35gns of H322 at 99% load density should give 1415fps @ 31.5kpsi.  93% of powder burnt

      I have heard from several people that QuickLoad doesn’t model straight walled cases as accurately.  So take it as just an educated guess.

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      Thanks ! A guide is a guide .
      QL didn’t care for 4350 in a 6.8 either it missed by a fair measure putting 105% at something around 70% the actual 100% case fill was closer to 130% of projected data . I know I4350 doesn’t really clean up and come to life until it hits 28,000 but it’s been very reliable 32-35kpsi the volume/weight line sounds about right , eyeball reference . My concern was with the 100gr increase in weight .

      Thanks Glen !

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